The Infamous C-Word…
Posted on : 11-05-2009 | By : Single in SF City | In : Gross!, There is no category for this one..., WTF?!
So I was chatting with one of my girlfriends this weekend and we started to talk about the C-word…
Not what you think.
Circumcise.
We don’t understand why there are some adult men that still aren’t circumcised!
And fine, fine. It’s not up to a baby boy whether or not he’s gonna have the operation. But a guy can make the decision as an adult. So why doesn’t he? Better late than never, right???
Really, not to disrespect uncircumcised men, but I can honestly say from first hand experience that it’s a turn-off…For me and for every other woman I’ve talked to.
Frankly, it seems like it would be more “painful” not to get the operation. Is the guy not self-conscious all his life?
We’ll probably need the male perspective on it. But from the WPOV (women’s point of view), ew, ew, ew.
If size matters at all, then believe that being circumcised matters for sure.http://surveygizmo.okccontest.sgizmo.com?c=208.
Well, I AM circumcised, but from what I have heard, this is something that really needs to be done when one is a baby. I’ve heard that the pain is indescribable for an adult male (with a difficult healing period), and I can not imagine going to get it done in my adulthood. Personally, I DO think it looks better to be circumcised, but uncircumcised is more natural, isn’t it? At any rate, I am thankful my parents made the decision to do it. I certainly don’t remember the pain or trauma, and I’m glad for it. One less thing to worry about…
Personally, I think it looks better too
So based on what you and Mr.X have said, I’m getting the impression that getting it done in adulthood is just waayyy tooo painful and too much trouble.
See, I’m catching on. But then my next question is…part of the reason that most women find it so unappealing is the hygiene (or lack of) associated with the un-cut version. It seems so high maintenance.
Well, you’re lucky you don’t have to worry about that stuff.
Whoa….get snipped in adulthood?! That’s like asking a woman to get her nipple cut off because he doesn’t like it.
I am NOT sporting a turtleneck, but I do have to say that, if I were, I highly doubt that I’d go get snipped. That’s just…argh..can’t even fathom that idea.
Glad it was done while I was a baby. I heard I couldn’t walk for a year
I’m with CityGuy…thank god we don’t have memories of that.
Ha ha ha. Couldn’t walk for a year
Too freaking funny.
Maybe the idea is unfathomable and that’s why so many guys leave it alone.
Well, if the man of my dreams comes along and he happens to not be cut, I won’t hold it against him
You’re kidding me, right? How shallow could you possibly be?
I’m a woman, 26, and I’ve been w/ 2 uncircumcised men. They are totally fine and not any better or worse than the circumcised men I’ve been with. This argument to me is about at stupid as some guy demanding a boob job from their girlfriend or saying a woman who isn’t circumcised isn’t worthy of dating or marriage. Sick isn’t it? Some cultures think an uncircumcised woman is gross. So I guess it all depends on your perspective. But to me, insulting or rejecting someone based on how their body was naturally created is pretty lame. I’m guessing some guy out there thinks your roast beef is pretty rank too. I bet you’d be pretty offended if he said that to you – that you should have labiaplasty to reduce those big vag lips of yours.
And if you want anybody to take your complaint seriously, learn to spell it. It’s “circumcised”, not circumSIZED.
Well Miss Shannon,
Who would have thought that a woman would be so upset over another woman’s opinion. (You are a woman, right?).
And by the way, you’re only 26 and you’ve been with 2 uncircumcised men? Where are you from again? I’m guessing you’re pretty unattractive but maybe I’m wrong.
I don’t think I ever mentioned that a guy isn’t worthy of dating or marriage because he’s not circumcized; you seriously misread into my post. All I am saying is that I, and most of the ladies I’ve spoken to, find it unappealing. And if a guy only wants a chic with big boobs or smaller lips and you don’t fit into that category, then move on. Everyone has their preferences.
By the way, what is roast beef? I’m a vegetarian so I wouldn’t know. Is that what yours is called?
Thank you for the spelling correction. Much appreciated.
Have a nice day.
Ok, here’s why this is just wrong. Anatomically, the penis and the clitoris are very similar. Actually, when boys are developing in the womb, they start out as girls and the clitoral type structure then develops into the penis. The foreskin of said penis contains millions of nerves that help stimulate pleasure and give more control during sex. With the foreskin, men are usually able to last longer because they have more control with the excess of nerves and it’s been proven that the pleasure it produces is the equivalent of what a properly stimulated clitoris will give to a woman.
The only reason circumcision is still in practice today, not including the religious reasons, is that the fathers want their sons to be just like them. Any educated doctor (that is to say, a doctor that has kept up to date in today’s research) will tell you that there is no reason to circumcise. So, as the person suggested above, asking a man to get circumcised for cosmetic reasons is rather shallow and is the equivalent of asking a woman to get implants. Not to mention that circumcised penises will eventually get the texture of an unlotioned, cracked elbow. But, unfortunately, many people rather wallow in their ignorance and providing them with accurate information seems to be futile.
Hi Justin,
Seriously.
Thanks for educating all of us ignorant folk
But here’s my question…if circumcision is so superficial then why is it so popular in the United States? Most of the uncircumcised men I’ve known are from other countries.
So women in American women are jaded. It would be the equivalent of the following: In many countries across the world, fat women are seen as beautiful while skinny women are perceived as repulsive. So a man who has only come to know a “healthy” woman as beautiful is not at fault for finding a skinny woman repulsive. He wouldn’t be considered ignorant or shallow, would he?
Just asking.
I’m circumcised and like it that way, but I don’t know that I’d go through the procedure if I wasn’t. Mostly because I don’t want knives anywhere near that area!
Riff Dog!
I definitely feel you on the knives thing. If I put myself into the mindset of a guy, maybe I wouldn’t want to take that risk either
But damn, now if I could actually put myself into the mindset of a guy, maybe I wouldn’t have so much confusion dating!
Good thing I got cut. Phew lol.
Is it bad that I hated my parents for a while after I found out what they did?
Ha ha!
It makes the world a better place, ha ha. Trust me, after the conversations I’ve had with my girlfriends, consider yourself a very lucky man!
I don’t know you and I’ve never seen you, but I’m glad you got cut too
Is this idea of being “cut” an American ideology? I wonder how foreign women feel about it. Being circumsized in other countries isn’t as prevalent as in the U.S.
I know, I think that male circumcision is really an American thing. Women are totally jaded here! But it is what it is. We can’t help it.
I would venture to guess that foreign women don’t have a problem with it. I mean, my guess is that the majority of the world’s men are uncut. And they still marry and have kids.
I’m uncut but wish I were, because so many women have opinions like yours and your friends. But, I’m too scared to get it done now :-/
Awww Steve,
I’m so glad that you shared such a personal thing. You know that we’re not that shallow; we’ve just had some bad experiences. Anyway, I would never discount a guy because of it, especially if he’s a good guy. (Bad guys come in the cut and un-cut version!). And I can totally relate to you being too scared to get it done.
Just curious where you are from….
Born in New Jersey and I live in SF now. I’m not entirely sure why my parents didn’t have it done when I was a baby – they’re not from another country or anything like that. It’s not really something I intend to ask them about now though.
Hmmm, American born and raised! Well you’re definitely a myth-buster so thank you!
And you’re living in SF? Do I know you? (I’m being serious)
Almost certainly not…although I don’t even know who you are so I suppose there’s a miniscule chance. In general though I don’t go around talking about my circumcision status to people I know – only random strangers on the internet
Another uncut American here. Overall I can say that I would probably rather have been circumcised for health and social reasons, but it’s not so bad that I’m going to run out and get cut any time soon. I can’t even begin to imagine how that conversation with the doctor would go: “So I’d like to have part of my penis chopped off.”
What you say about being self-conscious is true. You only have to scare a few girls before it starts to affect your self confidence. One funny thing is that there’s no way to not answer the question ‘Are you circumcised?’ – a non-answer is automatically interpreted as a ‘no’.
The other big problem is with condoms, which can turn into a comedy of errors if the foreskin doesn’t feel like cooperating. I do have to say that the hygiene thing is not an issue though, but this may just be because I shower on a daily basis.
Oh wow, I didn’t know about the condom issue. Can you elaborate more on that? Seriously. I really don’t have much experience in that regard.
As far as being self-conscious…It’s a shame if it shatters your self-confidence! You just haven’t found the right woman yet. I’m just curious at what point you mention to the ladies that you’re not circumcised.
So many questions, I know! But just think, you’re helping woman-kind.
Ok let’s see here…hopefully this won’t be too graphic. With condoms the first issue is getting it on properly. For one the head is really sensitive and doesn’t like a lot of touching/wrestling with the condom. Second, if you’re not careful it can get stuck between the groove behind the head, and the pulled-back foreskin. When that happens it’s impossible to finish putting on, because pulling on it hard enough to get it over the bunched-up foreskin also pulls way too hard on the foreskin itself, which is very painful, and painful penis = lost hardon = mood ruined.
If you do get it on properly, the motion of the foreskin under the condom can cause two problems. Sometimes the condom works itself off, which kind of defeats the point. Other times the chafing caused by this movement can get pretty painful, enough to make me need to stop (not good for either of us). The worst part about this is that condoms are even more important for uncut guys because of the increased risk of STDs.
Regarding women – generally I’ll give her a heads up when it seems like she’s pretty close to seeing it anyway. It’s a delicate balancing act – too early comes off as creepy and awkward, but no warning at all leads to problems when the girl has never seen an uncut one before and asks what’s wrong with your penis (true story). A couple girls have straight up asked me well before we got anywhere near bedroom activities – this is how I discovered that a non-answer is equivalent to an answer of ‘not circumcised’.
Oh wow, regarding the condom issue, you really educated me!
I agree that it would be creepy to mention anything about your penis too early on (and that goes for ANYONE). But an honorable mention at some point before the s-e-x gets close would be the thing to do.
So you have a story about a girl asking what was wrong with your penis? Do tell (post it if you’re not shy!)
It happened my freshman year in college. I had just spent the night with a girl from one of my classes – just a lot of making out though; the underwear never came off. Anyway, the next morning as I was getting out of bed, I guess she had changed her mind about things. She said “let’s see what you’ve got under there” and pulled down my boxers. Needless to say I wasn’t yet “ready for action”, and as soon as she saw it she recoiled and said “oh my god what’s wrong with your penis?” I explained that I wasn’t circumcised, and she apologized and said that she didn’t think she could do it, and that she had to go. Made for some awkward moments in class after that.
That was probably the worst reaction I ever got from a girl. A few girls have been extremely excited by it, most are indifferent, and a few have expressed mild distaste. I also had a long-term girlfriend who said that if we were ever going to get married, I would have to be circumcised. Needless to say we aren’t dating anymore
Funnily enough, in my one experience with a foreign woman she was disappointed that I wasn’t circumcised. She had heard that all Americans were circumcised and wanted to see what it was like. It didn’t stop her or anything, but I thought it was interesting that she assumed I would be cut because I’m an American.
I doubt I would move – that’s a pretty big step. If it continued to be an issue it would probably be easier to just get circumcised. Which I’m not necessarily opposed to – it’s just not something I’m in a rush to do. I’m sure you’re familiar with the usual male laziness when it comes to the doctor – now multiply that by 10x because it involves cutting on the penis. Basically I want to be sure it’s absolutely necessary before going down that road.
I’m glad i’m circumcised. And i’m proud of it. I know some women who has testimonials about men who haven’t circumcised yet. And their stories are so awful. Imagine how they laugh about it. They usually prefer men who are circumcised though.
I wish that you were a fly on the wall when I was having that conversation with my friends. It was classic. Hilarious. LOL funny.
OMG, that sounds awful! Well, the good news is that at least it was college, and she probably wouldn’t have known what to do in the bedroom anyway
It’s sad that a woman wouldn’t marry you because of it. But as I said before, she probably just wasn’t the right one anyway. I’m on the distaste side myself, but I wouldn’t discount a good man if everything else was great about him.
Unless you plan to go through adult circumcision, I guess you’ll have to keep dealing with the “bad” apples until the right lady comes along (I’m being totally serious when I ask…would you consider moving outside the U.S.?)